Wakascopes

Posted by DOTDOT (anonymous) on May 29, 2008 at 4:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

WARNING!

Swallow beverage completely before reading.

I'm just saying.

Posted by oaas (anonymous) on May 29, 2008 at 4:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

awesome!

Posted by mitzibel (Misty Nuckolls) on May 29, 2008 at 5:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Jill, have my babies?

Posted by gavon (Gavon Laessig) on May 29, 2008 at 7:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Being a Cancer, can I make grilled cheese out of the smegma oozing from my rash?

Posted by CarterFaucheaux (anonymous) on May 29, 2008 at 7:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

love it, good work

Posted by ladylaw (Terry Bush) on May 29, 2008 at 8:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

if the artist thing does not work out, I think you may have found a calling.... you may want to see if LJW or "the Pitch" want to pay you to regularly write these horror scopes.....Cause I think they're good enough to earn $$.

Posted by leslie (Leslie vonHolten) on May 29, 2008 at 9:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

yeah, these are perfect.

Posted by OtherJoel (anonymous) on May 29, 2008 at 10:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

B.O. and sex are nature's perfumes! Just because you feel you have to mask humanity's lovely aromas with modern trappings such as "soap," "deodorant" and "tap water" doesn't mean you have the right to oppress me with your narrow-minded views.

Yuppie.

Posted by THX1138 (anonymous) on May 30, 2008 at 9:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Right on, I'm with you OtherJoel ! To hell with you hateful, jack-booted pricks!

I am *so* there for the naked factor alone. Oh, creepy middle-aged guy ogling naked girls half his age you say? I don't think so; I'll be the one hiding my bald spot with a KFC bucket. Instant cool baby...instant cool.

Posted by bwoodard (Bill Woodard) on May 30, 2008 at 10:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Get your patchouli stink out of my store...

Posted by godjilla (Jill Ensley) on May 30, 2008 at 10:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

You are all too kind. And to think I was worried about this being too negative. Turns out, you're all hateful people and I love you.

Misty, I tried growing a penis SPECIFICALLY for this purpose, but it didn't take and fell off after 2 days.
EPIC SCIENCE FAIL. :(

Gavon, don't try and steal my thunder with your bucket of gross.
You do keep it in a bucket, right?

ladylaw, shhhhh....don't let Phil hear you.

Posted by local_support (anonymous) on May 30, 2008 at 11:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

A few are funny, most are just stupid.

ATTENTION CAPRICORNS: BEN FOLDS PLAYS AT 10 PM SATURDAY NIGHT IN THE REVIVAL TENT.

(Damn it's so hard to read a schedule)

Posted by godjilla (Jill Ensley) on May 31, 2008 at 12:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Aww, there's always one....and one that apparently only comments on Waka (and/or other festival) related posts. Hmm.
Don't take the hippie mockery so seriously, man.

Posted by local_support (anonymous) on May 31, 2008 at 4:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I just think it's extremely ironic that you all mock the festival that the lawrence.com staff receives dozens of comp passes to and is a sponsor of. Not very cool at all.

The only reason that I only post on Waka-related posts on here is that is the only discussion that interests me. I read all the others though.

I'd be happy to swing by the lawrence.com tent out at the festival to discuss this in person.

Thanks,
David Barrett

Posted by OtherJoel (anonymous) on May 31, 2008 at 6:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Jesus -- I thought hippies were laid-back.

Posted by gavon (Gavon Laessig) on May 31, 2008 at 8:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Dave,

Speaking as someone actually on the lawrence.com staff, I'd like to point out that we're not mocking Wakarusa...we're just teasing a sub-culture who happens to frequent Wakarusa and every other festival. We certainly support Wakarusa and are just being wisenheimers as usual. Jack-assery is kind of our bag...otherwise we'd just be LJ World with drink specials. I like to think that our target audience is also your target audience, and actually enjoy a good larf. Jill's stuff is pretty brilliant and can be appreciated by everyone, even those she's satirizing.

Besides, isn't any publicity good publicity? And I can assure you that we'll gladly be out in force at Wakarusa next week and providing even more coverage.

No hard feelings (especially if we get some comp beer to go along with those comp tickets).

-Gavon

Posted by CarterFaucheaux (anonymous) on June 1, 2008 at 12:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

smoke a bowl and chill, david barrett

Posted by DOTDOT (anonymous) on June 1, 2008 at 3:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ironically Ironic Irony.
By DOTDOT

Blessed with the mind of a ferret
his comments are oozing with merit
"you best take it back
you're mocking my Wak"
defender of all things good, it's Dave Barrett

Lest the satrical worsen
He's calling out Chris Christopherson
homies beware!
it aint jest a dare!
They're going to discuss it in PERSON!!!

..

Posted by local_support (anonymous) on June 1, 2008 at 3:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Gavon:
Jill refers to what you guys are doing as "hippie mockery" in a previous post so I simply took my cue from her. Personally I am not offended by these horoscopes. Satire is by far my favorite form of comedic expression. But I think that the hippie stereotype is a tired parody and far from brilliant. I stated my opinion as such, although not very eloquently.

Regarding your captioned pictures I don't think any one of those individuals would appreciate their image being used in such a way. Personally if I found a picture of myself with a caption implying I used illegal drugs I would be very upset. These pictures are a problem Gavon, whether you want to believe that or not. There's a thread about it raging over on the Wakarusa messageboard: http://forum.wakarusa.com/viewtopic.php?.... Maybe you should post something over there to explain why these pictures are acceptable. Maybe the best course of and apologize.

And like I said I would be more than happy to swing by the lawrence.com tent at the festival to chat with you and whoever else about the conflict that exists between these articles and your relationship with Wakarusa.

Regards,
David

Posted by local_support (anonymous) on June 1, 2008 at 3:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

..

I love the poem. It is the first one that anyone has ever written about me. (that I know of) I'm going to print it out and hang it on the wall next to my desk.

Thanks man (or woman, or whoever you are)

Posted by DOTDOT (anonymous) on June 1, 2008 at 5:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Your welcome, David, and I mean that from deep down in the heart of the man, the woman, and the whoever in me.

I probably shouldn't comment on a matter that has nothing to do with me, but this I do often. Not only am I not going to Wak, but I've never heard and barely heard OF, any of the bands that are playing.

But anyway, while the target of this satire was the hippie sub-culture, the offense seems to be taken by another sub-culture - those that CAN"T TAKE A JOKE. Over there where the thread is "raging", these folks are taking potshots at eldotcom - a sponsor of the festival - for humor that has nothing to do with them.

If this the REAL typical Waka fanboy, I'm glad I'm not going.

..

Posted by Jester (Nick Spacek) on June 1, 2008 at 5:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I like loud music. Thankfully, MidWest Fest provides a punk option for those that despise nature, yet still wish to see live music while standing next to people that haven't bathed in recent memory.

Posted by godjilla (Jill Ensley) on June 1, 2008 at 5:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Bwahahahaha!
Well, I did make a mistake. Clearly, I've misused the term "hippie". You cats ain't cool enough to be hippies.

In all seriousness, I don't think anyone in their right mind would take this, or LOL Hippies (which are hilarious and OBVIOUSLY all in good fun) as a reason to stay away from Wakarusa. Personally, I'm staying about because I can save my money by staying home to get sweaty and drunk.

This isn't hurting business (god forbid anything hurt Business), merely taking a comedic spin around what may very well be a "tired stereotype". But are you really going to get pissy over this? I mean, with plenty of other topics to choose from, this is what you're gonna get angry about? So we're poking a little fun. Was any of it malicious? Are you stressed out? What's going on here? As for none of those people being amused or liking their photo in that way, I disagree. Not everyone's got a stick up their butt. Might I suggest a name change. Seems that "local_support" only applies when stories/rants/bullshitting agrees with your views.

Posted by godjilla (Jill Ensley) on June 1, 2008 at 5:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ahh crap, "staying AWAY", not "about".

Posted by OtherJoel (anonymous) on June 1, 2008 at 6:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

LOL hippies rock!

The reason people make fun of hippies for doing drugs, not bathing, and listening to noodly music, is because -- sorry to be the one to break it to you -- a lot of what being a hippie in the 2000s IS doing drugs, not bathing, and listening to noodly music. I'm saying this as someone who has some tie-dye and Phish albums in his past as well (and I still kind of dig the Flaming Lips -- gasp!). I sincerely respect a lot of what the original hippies did in the 60s -- they were true radicals, they fought for peace and justice, and played a role in making our society a slightly more tolerant and progressive place (even if many of them were eventually absorbed into the establishment against which they fought). Much of it now (like something closer to my own heart -- the punk movement) is fairly superficial and sapped of any real power.

I'm not saying that today's hippies are not politically active, but it's not really a defining component and hardly a radical movement anymore. How is that rebellion? In my experience, the nu-hippies are not any more politically active than any other "group." I stood alongside as many straight-laced computer programmers, Hill interns, and administrative assistants (like me) as I did hippies when we marched on the capitol in protest of the Iraq war in 2003. And maybe that's another part of the hippie legacy that we can be thankful for: protest is no longer the domain of the "counterculture;" it's everyone's right and duty (not that it still doesn't mean you'll get your ass beaten or maced for it).

And you're not really oppressed in any way, aside from possibly increasing the likelihood of having your car searched for pot. Gavon made this point better than I could have on the LOL hippies post -- suffice to say that middle-class (presumption) white college kids playing the "oppressed" card is pathetic and kind of offensive.

Anyway, I just got way too serious here. It's cool if you want to do your hippie thing and all that. But if you can't learn to laugh at yourself a bit, life's gonna suck, pal. Mellow out, man.

Posted by OtherJoel (anonymous) on June 1, 2008 at 6:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And maybe the smelly hippie stereotype is tired. But many of us still find it funny, so it obviously still has some mileage left.

Posted by local_support (anonymous) on June 1, 2008 at 6:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It's cool Jill. I'm not pissy about any of this. I already told you that nothing in here offends me. I just don't think you are very clever or creative when it comes to this article. That's all I've ever said about these horoscopes.

It is the PICTURES that I take exception to. I strongly disagree that the captions are hilarious and "OBVIOUSLY all in good fun." You clearly feel differently than I do. We are both entitled to our opinions. But somehow I doubt that the older couple would like to be labeled as swingers who broadcast their exploits on the internet. (I could be wrong though) Maybe we should track them down and ask them personally. I'm sure it wouldn't be that hard to do if that picture originally came from the LJW.

Why don't you guys run some hipster horoscopes along with captioned photos insulting those who favor Chuck Taylors and tight jeans. (With the subject's permission of course) Then do it for the people in frats and sororities. Next you can do Jayhawk fans. Don't forget about the punk rockers. Perhaps you've already written them all and I somehow missed it?

If it's all in good fun then there shouldn't be a problem. You could even make it a regular feature. If your lampooning becomes all inclusive then I will buy what you are saying about it being all in good fun.

Cheers and enjoy your sweaty and drunken weekend Jill.

David

Posted by godjilla (Jill Ensley) on June 1, 2008 at 7:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

True, Hoboscopes weren't exactly aimed at a demographic we'd hear a lot of backlash from. Believe me, the idea of Sorosti-scopes have been put on the table as well. I have no problem poking fun at large groups of people, especially collegiate groups of people. Yes, this includes groups I could be labeled as being a part of. And it's totally fine if you didn't find them creative or clever. Maybe it's just not your thing. Can't please everyone, blah blah blah.

It's admirable that you're standing up for the rights of an anonymous older couple, and maybe you're tired of hearing this, but I hear there's some other people in the world who could sure use a champion for rights.

Yeah, I'll most likely be working on some photos this weekend, so maybe sweaty, not drunken. That was, as we call it in the "journalism" business, a joke. Keep reading, there might be more.

Also, OJ, well said.

Posted by OtherJoel (anonymous) on June 1, 2008 at 8:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ooh! EMOSCOPES!

I'd be willing to throw myself out there and volunteer to be the subject of OJScopes, but I don't know how much mileage you can get out of me. If you can develop a whole horoscope about unsuccessful thirtysomething part-time musicians who live mostly on Miller High Life, El Monterey Chimichangas, Pall Malls, and making other people feel small for their own amusement, have at it.

Posted by DOTDOT (anonymous) on June 2, 2008 at 12:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OJ. When are we going to JAM? There's a campaign "raging" over here with the goal of making our house a bit less illcommodious to playing. You know what I mean. Pulling shit out of closets, knooks and khrannies throughout and putting it in a big pile somewhere I can finally sit down in front of and drool. And a subcommittee is forming to actually get stuff to work again. Maybe som a dat magic digital recording dust. Maybe.

One of these days, bra, one of these days.

Posted by gavon (Gavon Laessig) on June 2, 2008 at 2 a.m. (Suggest removal)

David,

First of all, if you don't find Jill "very creative or clever," then you're kind of being a dick (a dick with a poor taste in humor, I might add). That was mean-spirited and tactless, and flies in the face of the argument of comity you're so diligently pushing for. Sorry, but I can't stand for my colleagues being personally attacked without saying something. As you said earlier, not very cool at all.

Secondly, yes--as has been pointed out in the Wakarusa.com chatrooms-- we do own the photos that were used. If you can find anyone who was in those photos that objects to their portrayal, I'll personally apologize to them. Also, I'm glad you got the joke that the older couple wanted to broadcast their sexual exploits on the internet...that means you're on my wavelength. Welcome to the dark side, my friend.

Thirdly, as has been repeatedly pointed out, these are just jokes (in Jill's case, quality jokes...if you've ever seen "Last Call with Carson Daly" then you know how good they are by comparison). PLEASE take a step back and realize that we're celebrating Wakarusa by lavishing as much attention on it as we do. We love the festival and very much want it to succeed.

Lastly, Sinclair Lewis won the Nobel Prize in Literature in 1930. Just thought I'd throw out a little bit of trivia to lighten things up...

-Gavon

Posted by OtherJoel (anonymous) on June 2, 2008 at 7:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

DOTDOT, jamming would be cool. I just don't make it out to Lawrence much for more than an evening here and there, but we could probably set something up. And the band keeps talking about booking shows in Lawrence -- maybe I could get a DOTDOT "special appearance" worked in there. Some piano or spacey synth action could work with some of our songs. I'd have to clear it with the committee, of course.

Posted by DOTDOT (anonymous) on June 2, 2008 at 6:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Whoah. I didn't know you had a band. I'd be glad to appear, specially of course, if your audience wasn't afraid somebody's dad was let off up on the stage.

Either way, one of these days, bra, one of these days.

Posted by CarterFaucheaux (anonymous) on June 2, 2008 at 11:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I bet David is really the life of the party this weekend, being such a cheerful, carefree guy and all.

Posted by zzgoeb (anonymous) on June 6, 2008 at 9:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

As always, I 'm days late!!! The counter culture arose out of a need to change the world...not as a lifestyle or fashion choice. There were only two kinds of people in 1969, straights and freaks. Hippie was a put-down then, as now. Jilla's satire was spot-on, and razor cutting, as always!!! Lengthly discussions about photos offending someone are moot, tired, and un-needed. Hey, found your own paper/website/board if you don't like "the man's"....As for the music and nature, that's a scene we all need to checkout for awhile as youngsters. If you want to be a 53 year-old "rainbow" child, do it!

peace man...(dude is not hip or hep)

...just remember what "Free-wheelin' Franklin" said "Dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope!!! Right on man!!!

the goeb-a freak from the past