It's Not OK To Be Fat

Posted by mitzibel (Misty Nuckolls) on August 24, 2005 at 5:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So what's worse than being fat? Not being able to figure out html. The link to the article on Dr. Terry is: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050824/ap_o...

Posted by Joel (Joel Mathis) on August 24, 2005 at 5:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Misty: Does that mean you don't love me anymore?

Posted by mitzibel (Misty Nuckolls) on August 24, 2005 at 5:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You, Joel, are not fat. But yes, I still love you ;)

Posted by Dazie (Aileen Dingus) on August 24, 2005 at 6:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh. My. God. I figured that link would lead to the Simpsons. "Ah warsh mahsef with a rag ona stick." I can't remember if it was Bart or Lisa.

It didn't though. Now I have the mental picture of some obese person (man, woman, it doesn't matter) who is NAKED and stabbing randomly at the folds of blubber around their buttcrack with an oversized version of a bottle brush.

Thanks Misty. Pass the eyebleach and remind me to punch you at bowling.

Posted by El_Borak (Bill Hoyt) on August 24, 2005 at 6:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Did you happen to catch Carlos Mencia last week? I'm pretty sure the crabby lady who's mad at Dr. Bennett couldn't have hung with him the whole half hour. Either that, or she'd file a complaint to see if she could get his comedy license revoked...

Posted by beatle919 (Marcy McGuffie) on August 24, 2005 at 6:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Damn girl! Ok, yeah Dazie...I'll help you throw some punches at Misty. Or maybe, I'll just sit my fat ass down on her. Too bad I've actually been losing weight..I could've done some real damage before.

Ah, more calories burned...

Posted by citizenx (anonymous) on August 24, 2005 at 6:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No way, a female can't be 200 pounds and well-proportioned.

Posted by Dazie (Aileen Dingus) on August 24, 2005 at 7:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

citizenx... I've never had any complaints.... ;)

Posted by citizenx (anonymous) on August 24, 2005 at 7:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Aw, you're kidding me. You probably think you're in shape too.

Posted by TheEleventhStephanie (anonymous) on August 24, 2005 at 7:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Misty, I think I love you. Now, can I come over and borrow a cup of Crisco? I got's me a hankerin'.

Posted by sethanie (anonymous) on August 24, 2005 at 8:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm curious. what's the cut-off point? You mention the 200 pound mark, so is that it? I'm pretty sure that is what most doctors will call morbidly obese. And I don't even want to know what a doctor would term my 260 pound, well proportioned ass.

Butt, heh, on to the subject at hand . . . No one, even a doctor, really NEEDS to tell any fat, hippy, rotund, big-boned, or obese person that they should lose weight for their health. I think that the news, magazines, movies and our Twiggy-size obsessed culture in general has pretty much given us whales the message. Either you're thin or your'e dog shit. Your choice.

Everyone has tons of excuses. No time to exercise, healthy food just doesn't taste good, I'd die with out my morning sugar and caffeine jolt, life isn't worth living without chocolate . . . etc. But they're just excuses. I have my own little mint chocolate chip excuse.

All I can say is that i'm happier living my life than trying to mold my body into standards that would be hell to meet. I've made concessions in the name of health. No more pop, fried food is pretty much gone and the treadmill doesn't just sit there collecting dust. I dont bitch about not losing weight, I've accepted myself.

Oh, and next time I stop by to snuggle Penny you'd better clear the junk off an extra wide space on that couch . . . Mremre plans to sit down.

Posted by leslie (Leslie vonHolten) on August 24, 2005 at 9:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is unfortunate, because sometimes--often--people will "know" something about themselves, but it's not until a doctor mentions it that one's morbidity and mortality are brought into sharp focus. I'm very curious how this will play out on the public health front. Unlike tobacco, there isn't one contributing factor we need to eradicate. We have too much money (and therefore eat out more), we're too busy to cook fresh food, we don't walk anywhere because destinations are miles away, there's high fructose corn syrup in fricking everything, registered dieticians make a living planning the sugar-pumped garbage they serve at public schools and call it "balanced," and we're all a nation of victims.

What's the answer? I don't have it. But I did notice this summer when I was in NYC that there were few fatties. New Yorkers eat out all the time, there's an amazing abundance of awesome food, so what is it? They also walk an average of 5 miles per day. Maybe that's it. Or maybe their ulcers are keeping them skinny.

Posted by leslie (Leslie vonHolten) on August 24, 2005 at 9:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BTW, that Tech N9ne ad is going to make me have a stroke.

Posted by Dazie (Aileen Dingus) on August 24, 2005 at 10:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

citizenx- no. I have no illusions of being in shape. If you'll go back through Joel's blog you'll find that my foray into the world of exercise ended up in heat stroke and me extolling the virtues of my sendentary lifestyle. I need to lose weight, but not to make myself more attractive. (just fyi- I do top out at about 200)

I've never had anyone complain about my extra curves. Well, to my face. If they don't like the goddess look, screw them. Or not... as the case may be. *shrug* They just don't know what they're missing.

Posted by Dazie (Aileen Dingus) on August 24, 2005 at 10:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And BTW- I did punch Misty at bowling. I'm lucky she didn't chop me in the throat.

Posted by Jane (anonymous) on August 24, 2005 at 11:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have grown past judging people based on their weight and am moved to wonder what is going on with them. And though I don't make asssumptions and really don't care about a person's weight, I do find the tight fitting and roll-showing clothing to be very unsightly. Note to the bigger ladies: Just because they make it in your size, it doesn't mean you should wear it. ;)

Posted by citizenx (anonymous) on August 24, 2005 at 11:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I weigh 194, so I'm not morbidly obese like the rest of y'all topping out at 200 pounds and more...heh. The thing is, when I was 14 I weighed 135 and was a model. Damn, it's depressing for me to realize that even my metabolism can slow down. Sniff. But I still do modeling and I think it's great to have bigger women in the catalogs. When I was in the business - around 1996-2000, Lane Bryant women usually weren't over a size 16, even though the sizes go up to...24? I''m not sure. I remember thinking that was wrong. I believe that a woman can be a size 20 and healthy. And it is changing--these women are now the ones in the catalogs. Myself, I'm trying madly to lose the weight. I'm just not at all comfy with the possiblity of hitting 200. But it's all muscle. Of course.

Posted by ichikuo (Hanluen Kuo) on August 25, 2005 at midnight (Suggest removal)

So you're racist against fat people??!?!?!?

j/k lol...

Posted by citizenx (anonymous) on August 25, 2005 at 12:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Might I just mention that skinny people sometimes scare me more than fat people? Anorexia lives on the KU campus. And these are young people, who should really have the healthiest bodies. Or what's worse, when people are skinny and fat at the same time. What gives? Oh yeah...we're in America.

Posted by UKept (anonymous) on August 25, 2005 at 1:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ahhh...Misty, you're ahead of your time. Now that the anti-smoking crew have banned smoking, the healthtopia Zeitgeist is turning it's judgemental gaze towards the terminally unfit. The fat person is the new chain smoker--avaricious, greedy, self-centered, a drain on the economy, and pushing up the price of health care. Throw in some cariovasicular damage, and increased risk of stroke and that, and you've got yourself a new good ole fashion American witch hunt.

Posted by beatle919 (Marcy McGuffie) on August 25, 2005 at 4:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Gawsh, this insomnia's killin' me. I had no probs going to sleep (overindulging in beer tends to have that effect)..ANYWAY

Dazie: I forgot to punch Misty! Dang it. I ended up punching Joel instead...I *gots* to take my frustrations out on someone. Sorry Joel.

Misty: McGriddles=breakfast crack. I SWEAR...they put a lil something extra in those things. 1st time I tried one, I was repulsed...yet intrigued. A few days later...damnit, those things were singing my name.

Ok, I'm secure enough in my femininity to make an announcement: Misty, I think I have a non-sexual crush on you. In other words--you rawck, you crazy biotch.

Posted by quinn (Patrick Quinn) on August 25, 2005 at 7:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Leslie said:

"We have too much money (and therefore eat out more), we're too busy to cook fresh food, we don't walk anywhere because destinations are miles away, there's high fructose corn syrup in fricking everything, registered dieticians make a living planning the sugar-pumped garbage they serve at public schools and call it "balanced," and we're all a nation of victims."

Ditto.

Nice piece of writing. Love the new logo. But I thought the hair was torquoise?

Posted by cfdxprt (anonymous) on August 25, 2005 at 8:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This issue has always struck a chord with me. I remember shopping for "husky" pants at K-mart when I was 6, I weighed 200 lbs in 6th grade and 285 when I graduated. That I blame on my moms being willing to stock the house with as many little debbies as I could eat and not forcing me to get out from behind my computer (I got my first one at 5 - Vic 20). There's a little bit of blame that should go to health class, but until someone's cooking for themselves they won't really get what you're telling them about food.

A few years ago I finally got around to getting a gym membership and worked myself up to doing 2-3 hours of hard cardio per day. After 2 years of this, the weight didn't melt off, I finally got down to 5% body fat, which was still 195 lbs and by BMI was still damn near obese. Simple measures of your state of fitness just don't work.

I can't do dieting, it just ends up in binging when the starvation becomes too bad. I've added 10 lbs over the summer because it's just too darn hot to do 2 hours of cardio after work (I no longer have a gym membership, just use my bike) and because my job involves no physical labor. I probably haven't added more because I do walk somewhere between 3 and 10 miles per day (depending on the errands) and because I MAY have fast food once per month.

That bitch had no business trying to get her doctor in trouble! Like she hadn't been told she was fat before...he was just trying to prevent having to treat her for diabetes or from having a heart attack by age 40. I applaud him for refusing to accept any disciplinary action.

Now if I could just quit smoking...

Posted by leslie (Leslie vonHolten) on August 25, 2005 at 8:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hopefully this lawsuit will not deter the trend of taking discussions of weight away from fashion and media and putting it where it should be: the doctor's examination room. It's not a matter of anorexia vs obesity: it's a healthy area in between that people need to strive for. There's a wide range of normal (and healthy).

Unfortunately, the CDC and all of those folks have yet to come up with a true measure of health. BMI may provide a benchmark, but I think it's a bit too strict and nearly impossible for many healthy people to meet.

And don't forget that thin does not necessarily mean healthy. There are plenty of McD-eating skinny people who have heart attacks at 40. Heavenly metabolism does not keep the crud out of your arteries!

I personally love my pedometer. It measures my steps and encourages me to walk more. It's an easy and pleasurable way to keep minimally fit without risking heat stroke.

Posted by ladylaw (Terry Bush) on August 25, 2005 at 9:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

In my younger days I was way skinny (well...except for the mammeries) but I ALWAYS had heavier girl friends. Not that it's what I went looking for - it's just that the bigger girls, by and large (no pun intended) were usually a more sensitive lot. SO, I didn't point out to them the obvious (we can't see your elbows because of the fat hanging over them) and they didn't point out the obvious (you sure have wierd looking eyes and you read way too much). As I have gotten older (and much much heavier) I am glad I didn't have disdain for my larger friends. Being a hypocrite is such hard work.

But if a DOCTOR cannot point out a health risk factor to a patient without being sued, then what good is the doctor? COME ON NOW. It would be like going to a lawyer to get a divorce and then being mad when they point out that your soon to be ex would be really hard to live with!!! Since when is it illegal for a doctor to tell a smoker that it is bad for their health?

As for what constitutes fat versus "big boned" there are all kinds of calculators. According to some of them, about 80% of Americans are over their target weight. That means about 90% of those who blog here are probably over-weight in the eyes of someone. That message is also out there a lot. It causes a lot of heartache and stupidity. I am SICK AND TIRED of teenage girls who are literally starving themselves to death to lose 20 pounds because they think GUYS will love them more if they are thinner. I think that the obsession with skinny is just about as bad as the push for fat acceptance.

Can't people just agree that there is no such thing as "one size fits all" and try to be healthy about their sizes!?

I can say that, IMO, Citizen X is not fat. She is an Amazon beauty - the kind who should breed lots of babies who could then help Misty's children procreate and take over the world! On the other hand, people who need that rag on a stick, it is time to seriously thing about dieting (or gastric bypass). It's not about numbers. It's about health. IF you can be 300 pounds and your heart and bones etc. can take it, more power to you! On the other hand, if my tiny sister "porks up" to 140, she's a cardiac waiting to happen!

I have no issues with how people choose to live their lives or die. As long as they do not ask me to (a) pay for it; (b) suffer from it or (c) join them in being like it.

And yes - McGriddles are food crack. I don't have a sweet tooth, thank GOD, or else they'd be my down fall!

Posted by Tater (anonymous) on August 25, 2005 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

BMI isn't really a good indicator of health. I'm 6'4", 211 lbs. and according to the BMI I'm slightly overweight. It doesn't take into consideration if your weight is fat or muscle. I work out all the time so I would like to believe most of the weight is muscle. Besides muscle weighs more than fat and burns more calories when your asleep.

Posted by chrysanthalbee (Chad Reasoner) on August 25, 2005 at 9:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

dazie... it was bart.

http://download.lardlad.com/sounds/seaso...

Posted by BadEnglishMajor (Bethany Jones) on August 25, 2005 at 9:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Recently, I learned that in Hawaii the only people who aren't fat are the Japanese tourists and the military boys.

Really. Being skinny just isn't cool there.

Posted by OtherJoel (anonymous) on August 25, 2005 at 10:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"And don't forget that thin does not necessarily mean healthy. There are plenty of McD-eating skinny people who have heart attacks at 40. Heavenly metabolism does not keep the crud out of your arteries!"

My dad was one, and while he could eat McDonalds all the time with his metabolism, his allergies made him follow a pretty strict organic diet. But his smoking two packs of Pall Mall non-filters a day probably was a major factor there.

I am not the best person to comment on obesity, since my only weight problems consisted of being a bone-thin teenager and not being able to keep more than 160 lbs on my 6'3" frame. The better part of my 20s was spent living off of fast food and beer with no noticeable detriment to my health. I do have low blood pressure now, and at last check, my cholesterol level is good. 160 lbs. is now a distant memory -- I now need to be somewhat conscious of what I eat, and I run regularly, but keeping my weight at a normal level is not really a problem. And I know that its really more about luck than anything.

But I also know plenty of people who work out harder than I do, consult and listen to their physicians (and don't sue them), eat everything they are supposed to eat in modest portions, and still cannot reach a healthy weight. They are not the stereotypical lazy binge-eating slobs that some people assume (and I'm not saying that you are, necessarily). Genetics, hypothyroidism, virtually undetectable allergies, antidepressants, etc. etc. can all play a role in one's weight. However, there are some people who want to eat Big Macs every day, refuse to exercise, and blame others for their personal issues, and I think we all agree that the case you mention, Misty, would definitely qualify as "lawsuit abuse" (though the term is thrown around way too much). Much bigger issues regarding a general lack of personal responsibility at the societal level come into play here, but this comment is long enough already.

BTW, it was great meeting everyone last night! Hopefully we can do it again sometime.

Posted by mitzibel (Misty Nuckolls) on August 25, 2005 at 10:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes, Leslie, EXACTLY.
As for BMI and those height-weight charts---my adoring husband, according to those, is "morbidly obese" at 5'6" and 200 lbs. Yeah, sounds fat, doesn't it? But that doesn't take into account the fact that he has the densest and thickest bones of anyone I have EVER seen, and lots of muscle packed onto that frame.Mmmmm, I'm feeling naughty just typing about his body, he needs to come home SOON.
Uh, anyway, his body fat percentage is well within healthy parameters, so those things aren't always a good indicator. Being able to function as a normal human being IS. 'sall I'm sayin'.
I, also, find uber-skinny folks scary and a little disgusting. Stephanie and I are a little cracked-out on pro-Ana blogs; they're like car wrecks, only prolonged and in slo-mo. I really want to start my own about how much weight you can lose by contracting tapeworms, just to see how many unbalanced teenagers I can persuade to eat dogshit. But then again, I'm evil.

Posted by Todd (anonymous) on August 25, 2005 at 10:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Here's a link to average heights and weights for adults. Anyone with kids has probably seen a chart like this. (doctor's us % to see if you baby is progressing "normally" for head size, height, & weight) I'm not sure when this data was collected. (America is getting heavier by the year)

http://www.halls.md/chart/height-weight....

My 2 cents... A woman near average height simply shouldn't weigh over 175lbs. (exceptions for glanular stuff, competitive athlete, pregnancy, recovering from injury, mental retardation, coma, etc...) Men in the same category shouldn't really weigh over 200lbs.

Here's a term I can't stand that's gotten more play time over the last couple years. When a woman is fat she describes herself as having "extra curves" or being "more shapely". I'm not saying women should be this or that but making a term up that somehow indicates that the shape of you flab makes you sexy is, well, ... gross.

Posted by mitzibel (Misty Nuckolls) on August 25, 2005 at 11:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh, and quinn--the hair is turquoise right now, but before that it was pink and violet, and before that it was pink and yellow, and before that it was rainbow. . . and you get the point.
Yes, it was GRAND meeting everyone last night, and you are all super cool. Beatle, baby, right back atcha with the totally hetero crush, you are pretty damned spiffy your own self ;)
And sethanie, YOU are the exception that proves the rule, you think I wasn't paying attention in high school as you struggled? But you are gorgeous, and you don't bitch or try to lay a trip on me or anyone else, and you're healthy and sane, so you are officially exempted from my rant. One of these days I'm going to make it down to C-ville and you and me and Sparky are going to have to get together and engage in some mass Penny worship ;)

Posted by ladylaw (Terry Bush) on August 25, 2005 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey now Todd - Some "Extra curves" really are more shapely to some people....they may be rolls of fat..but they still curve, and some people like that! LOL. Seriously, if men can (and do) almost always describe their own looks as "average" or "above average" - when in fact there really are some "below average" or just plain ugly men who will NEVER tell themselves the truth (let alone anyone else) , why is it that the same males object to the women's version of the same lies?

There is no such thing as the perfect body or perfect body type. Individuals vary. While some folks find Ms. Monique fabulous, others find her gross. While some folks drool over a Mr. Universe body, others are turned off by it. As my grandmother Schwartz used to say "There's a lid for every pot, and thank God we all don't want to same pot, or we'd all be fighting over him/it".

Being healthy, in mind, body and soul, should be the end goal. We may disagree on what is actually healthy, but we can agree that it's what we need to shoot for. Yet, if you have never been in the shoes of someone else, you really can't know what they've been through or how they got to the shape they are in. You can have your own opinions and preferences. But so can everyone else! I go back to my personal mantra; do or be what ever you like, as long as you don't want me to (a) Pay for it (b) suffer because of it or (c) be like you.

Posted by mitzibel (Misty Nuckolls) on August 25, 2005 at 11:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Here, here, ladylaw. You are always so damn reasonable--quit it! You make the rest of us look bad!

Posted by sethanie (anonymous) on August 25, 2005 at 11:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Todd, you've missed the mark just a bit on the "extra curves" and "more shapely". It's some fat women's way of giving out the information that she is fat and does not sit around in a muumuu eating icing directly out of the can while watching Oprah all day. It's a way to express that she finds herself sexy DESPITE the weight, not because of it. Personally, I'd love for more women, and men, to embrace the word fat. It's delightfully informative. The look on people's faces when you state the obvious is just great. I am fat. It's like they thought you didn't know, which was what I was trying to get at with my above comment about not needing to be told. People can't say the f-world. Shhhhh, don't say that, they don't know they're fat. Just say big-boned, husky or extra curvy. Pft.

If you want to get irritated over popular culture, why don't you look at at tv comericals and shows that increasingly feature average looking men with spare tires and man boobs who are married to slim, pretty women.

OtherJoel, you have as much a right as anybody to comment on weight issues. Not being able to put on weight is akin to not being able to take it off. The issue is not being able to control your own body. Most weight issues, except for those people on daytime talk shows who consume the contents of the fridge in the middle of the night, are rooted in genetics. Now don't go rolling your eyes at me. I'm not saying I'm fat because of genetics. I'm saying my body is much better at using what it gets than you skinny assed people. So when the world goes kaboom and you're killing each other for meat, I'll live richly off the 3 catapillars I find each day. The simple fact is that I need a fraction of the calories that you guys need to maintain my weight. I can survive a famine, but an ocean of lays potato chips will do me in. The irony, huh?

Posted by cee (anonymous) on August 25, 2005 at 12:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree with Misty that it's not O.K. This country's acceptance of gluttony is going too far. It upsets me greatly that I have dear friends and family with unhealthy eating habits and exercise habits that I know will hurt them in the end. Believe me, I love food as much as the next person BUT no one needs to eat all the food all of the time.

I was lucky to be able to eat whatever I wanted growing up. Now that I'm older, I really have to work at it to stay around the same size. I don't "diet" but I try to eat a whole lot of fruit and vegetables, I've given up some unhealthy habits (Oh Cheetos, how I miss you), and I exercise on a semi-regular basis. I admit that my efforts are driven in part by vanity. But there's also the fact, frankly, I feel better. If I choose not to take one of the donuts in the break room it's because I'm not hungry and I don't need one, not because I'm obsessive or unhealthy. Get over it.

I'd also point out that its patently unfair how women are judged as far as weight in comparison to men. A man can be proud of his beer belly and, as far as I can tell, feel no regret if they simply have to buy bigger pants. Buying the next size up for a women feels like a failure (I admit to this too). My husband has told me stories about overhearing acquaintances - all of them out-of-shape-turds - commenting on averaged-sized women and labeling them "too fat." The mirrors in these guys' homes must be broken. That's probably opening up a whole different can of worms.

Posted by ladylaw (Terry Bush) on August 25, 2005 at 12:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yea, what IS with the current trend on TV shows to have some normal average looking guy(s) who are married, dating, with some extremely MUCH better than average looking female? Does it mean that MEN are now accepting themselves for what they are, while women still desire some unattainable looks goal? Or does it, as I imagine, mean that MEN are still in charge of such shows, and so they are quite happily reflecting their own versions of reality. The whole topic of why our society "forgives" men for looking "normal" but slams a woman for the same level of personal appearance flaws is worthy of study, but I doubt the conclusions will please anyone.

As for suvivng after the world goes kaboom... If, God forbid, I survived, I personally intend to learn to eat human beings...they're just so much easier to catch.... so I prefer having lots of BIG people around me, just in case....

Posted by OtherJoel (anonymous) on August 25, 2005 at 12:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Was the headline a reference to the new FX show "Starved?"-- the whole support group chanting "It's not OK!". I watched one episode, and while I can usually find and appreciate humor based on the tragic, I didn't really find it at all funny.

The show the follows it, "It's Always Sunny in Philadephia," also takes the "let's make fun of stuff we're not supposed to make fun of" approach and I think its hilarious. Of course, maybe I've gone soft -- the goatse thing got to me a little bit, even if I can now somewhat appreciate the sick humor behind it, particularly since Misty explained the background to me (as long as I don't have to see it again).

Very nice blog graphic, btw ;)

Posted by OtherJoel (anonymous) on August 25, 2005 at 12:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Ladylaw - the end will come when we're all zombies, so we'll all be cannibals anyway. In the meantime, I'll just keep up on the running so I'm a less attractive food source.

Posted by ladylaw (Terry Bush) on August 25, 2005 at 1:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well...lean meat does make better jerky......

Posted by quinn (Patrick Quinn) on August 25, 2005 at 1:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ladylaw, that biz about the Don Knotts-type dating the Heidi Klum-type is not just a current trend--that's a deep-seated part of the H'wood myth. That's been going on forever, just like the 70-year-old Cary Grant/Robert Redford type dating the 30-something starlet type. (I confess that otherwise rational women have confessed to me that if the older man was indeed Grant or Redford, they'd give the matter serious thought....)

Posted by ladylaw (Terry Bush) on August 25, 2005 at 2:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I have to agree with the women you spoke with - older dudes are usually too close to being "DAD" or "GRANDPA" ...unless they are Sean Connery types! Then, they seem to have a sexy side that is ageless.

But you are right about the "trend" being as old as entertainment. Samantha and Darren. W.C. Fields and Mae West. Maybe it's not just entertainment where it's happening. Maybe, in real life, woman are expected to be perfectly shaped in order to be loved, but men can just be ...well...themselves. Is this because men are harder on women? Probably not. It probably has something to do with the anthropological origins of sexual attraction. We want our offspring to survive. So, both genders look for the traits that will help that happen. In men, it's less about good looks. Men provide the food and shelter; so a big hairy ape fits the bill. While, women wanting to attract such apes have to gild the lilly as much as possible (and yet be able to give birth to the monster planted within).

I saw a cartoon once that said it all - Had two mirrors, with a man and a woman in front of each mirror. The man was fat, bald and ugly. He saw in his mirror a handsome hunk. The woman was pretty, slight of build, and curvy. She saw a hag. That about sums it up.

I can understand how the dichotomy became accepted by most people. But I can still hate the unfairness of it.

Posted by Joel (Joel Mathis) on August 25, 2005 at 2:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I believe that Berke Brethed, in the immortal "Bloom County", called this the Billy Joel-Christie Brinkley Syndrome.

Yup.

Posted by Carmenilla (anonymous) on August 25, 2005 at 2:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I am "big-boned" and a bit fat. But I'm still one hot mama! I also work out 3-5 days a week, cook and eat healthily and have a pretty positive self-image.

All thru jr. high and high school I questioned my inability to be smaller than a size 12. My dad jokingly called me his "little linebacker" but I wasn't overly sensitive to it. In truth, my big(ger) strong body made me an ideal volleyball player. And I still haven't met a woman who can beat me in arm-wrestling (get me drunk and I'll take ya on!)

I'm taller than average and very "curvy" but I don't have rolls hanging off of me. I like myself because no matter what I do I will never be some petitie fucking flower. Being half-Asian only contributes to my need to smash stereotypes about what a beautiful woman should look like.

We don't need fat acceptance. We need people acceptance. I have yet to meet anyone that actually looks like a girl in a fashion magazine. They don't exist. Its called airbrushing.

In fact, 5 years ago I was at an Ozzfest at Sandstone (not yet Verizon) Amphitheater and I saw Angela Lindvall, a "supermodel" in the world of fashion, who hails from Lee's Summit or some other equally awful place. In the flesh she looked like a pale homely heroin addict but in my beloved fashion rags she was a sinewy nubile goddess. What was I losing in the translation?

My point (if I have one) is that "size acceptance" isn't the issue. We need to think about what being healthy really means. I'm pushing 200 but I can still dance all night, do 45 minutes on the elliptical and kick yer ass in arm-wrestling. Am I fat and unhealthy? Hell no....

Posted by citizenx (anonymous) on August 25, 2005 at 2:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Amazon beauty? Thanks.

Posted by lazz (anonymous) on August 25, 2005 at 2:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So Misty gets a free pass on this vicious, hate-filled spew?
Misty gets a free pass on her "compulsive over-eating problem in high school" because this self-described "compulsive" disorder was "not a big one"?
She gets a free pass for allowing that her 5-6, 200-pound husband is big-boned, while laying waste to anybody else who can be properly categorized as obese?
I'm obese, Misty, both by statistical definition and reality. My fat keeps me from doing things I'd otherwise like to do -- hike 20 miles in the mountains, for instance -- and so therefore I have to admit the charts are right. I won't cower behind a completely preposterous notion of being "big-boned," which has as much scientific justification as intelligent design.
I'm sorry I'm ruining your life. I'm sorry I'm causing your insurance rates and taxes to rise, or whatever else you blame me for.
And if you ever said any of this shit to my face, it would hurt a lot. Hell, it already has. Newsflash: I don't need the reflection of your perfection to perceive my own fatness.
"Am I being cruel? Yeah, probably. I really don't give a flying fuck."
You're a jewel, Misty. Thanks for sharing your sublime grace.

Posted by ladylaw (Terry Bush) on August 25, 2005 at 3:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Uh...I have seen you Lazz. You certainly do not LOOK fat, let alone obese!!! In fact, I thought you were kind of cute...in a big tall man way. But you may not think that about yourself. We all have our own self-image to deal with.....

Said 5'6" 200lb husband of Misty has knee caps that are about 7" across, at least. It's odd looking. His feet are so flat and wide he can ski without boards and almost stand on water. His wrist bones are larger than my calf, with the meat on, just about. His orthodontist told me he had never ever seen any person of any age with such thick roots on their teeth. So, when she says he has thick bones, she means it. Think Neandrathal.

As for not needing Misty's reflection of her perfection...HAHAHAHAHA. She KNOWS she's not perfect. It just doesn't seem to bother her as much as it does some people.

Posted by ladylaw (Terry Bush) on August 25, 2005 at 3:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

P.S. A favorite game of Misty's is to tell people who are looking at her husband what he weighs. Just to see the shock register on their faces. No way does he look that heavy!

Posted by liz (Liz Weslander) on August 25, 2005 at 3:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Parent sees their kid compulsively shoving food in their face, parent confronts kid, kid starts eating sensibly ....WHAT'S SO GODDMNED DIFFICULT ABOUT THAT?"

It's not that difficult, and it's an important coversation to have. It's one I wish someone would have had with a lot of adults I know and love. I also don't think it's always that simple. I know as a parent I struggle to teach my kids about healthy eating without getting into power struggles and control issues. It's not all that hard at home where I can determine the available choices, but out in the world, where eating is a central part of socializing, it is harder.
I cringe whenever I see little ones chowing away unfettered on candy, pop or whatever pile of crap at a party, school function, etc., but when I see parents (including myself) trying to deny their children foods that are openly available to everyone, or trying to control their portions (only one more cookie, no more chips, etc) I see how silly that is to. It really just makes them desrie the food more, and I think it makes them more likely to binge the first time they are faced with whatever forbidden food without mama hawk watching over them.

Anyhow, I hope that being a good example and speaking frankly will do the trick. I'll believe it when I see it.

Posted by Carmenilla (anonymous) on August 25, 2005 at 4:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey, Liz, remember when my kid came to the twins b-day party and she ate more sugar there than she had eaten in a month? Damn pinatas! And than she laid on the ground and moaned because her tummy hurt. Sometimes they have to learn moderation by being excessive. My munchkin hasn't "binged" Little Chrissy-style since then. Live and learn.

Posted by Snoop (anonymous) on August 25, 2005 at 4:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Pardon the interruption, but that is a fucken incredible photo! Where did that come from?

BTW stop eating lose weight, or you will DIE!! Sue me...

Posted by rednekbuddha (Kelly Powell) on August 25, 2005 at 10:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The weight charts are pretty general but so are most charts like that.....Here are some hints that your fat

1: If it's below 60 and your sweating for no reason....Your fat!

2:If you ever found something in a fold

3: You cannot find clothes that fit at a topeka walmart

4: you use your gut as a keyboard stand

before all the self rightous fatties start moaning and bitchin again....I'm fat too.....I'm 5'10 and weigh about 225.....I should weigh 185, but I allways feel like a twig at that weight....200 would be cool, light enough to feel fast but massive enough to throw a homeless guy through a window. But I am lazy. I skip the gym, drive way too much and tend to eat crappy comfort food during the fall. I also do not delude myself....people dont tell me to button up my shirt cause I am getting them horny, they just get disgusted at my fur covered beer gut.

Posted by lazz (anonymous) on August 26, 2005 at 9:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)

some hints that "your" an idiot --
you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're"

oh, i forgot, we're only allowed to point out and laugh at obesity, not stupidity ...

Posted by ladylaw (Terry Bush) on August 26, 2005 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

HA - You sound like a grounded man Buddah!

And you've started a new game/blog topic - You might be too fat if: Answer: Before sex, your partner has to roll you in flour to find a wet spot... I know. I know. Boo hiss. From an old (Bad) joke....

Posted by rednekbuddha (Kelly Powell) on August 26, 2005 at 9:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm feeling deja vou..... And the last person who called me on this did not know where the shift key is either. Look,if "you're" fat, you're fat....and you will get some shit about it.....it only makes it worse when you try to enoble it . Hell I was'nt even being mean about it. I get more irritated when somebody makes fun of my place of origin or my economic status.
And this must be a girl thing.....I'm sorry society likes the ten year old boy with tits look, but society also wants guys to have that hairless man/boy metro look that 90% could never achieve without radical surgery or reincarnation.
So I am an idiot cuz I speed type...hmmmm, Lazz I bet you use terms like "goddess" when describing yourself.... Have you ever heard a guy calling themselves a"god" to cover the fact they are fat? Or reubenesque?Grow some thicker skin over that fat body and live with it, either you're happy or you're not, and people making fat jokes are the least of your problems.

Posted by lazz (anonymous) on August 26, 2005 at 10:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Redneck, I don't intend to make a debate of this. Fat jokes are fine. So are black jokes and Indian jokes and blonde jokes and Jew jokes ... oh wait, they're not? OK, I forgot, it's only fat people we're allowed to laugh at anymore. Groovy. I don't give a shit. Joke away. I joke at myself, as anybody who knows me will certainly attest.
This blog was not about fat jokes. It was a screed calling for marginalization and ridicule based on physical appearance. Funny is funny and cruel is cruel, and anyone who can't understand the difference is a danger to us all. And anyone who can take one lone example of a woman who sues her doctor for calling her fat and expands that into a vicious screed calling for public ridicule and condemnation of all obese people is someone who was simply looking for an excuse to vent their roiling bigotry. And those who applaud that can take equal pride in their lack of humanity and humility.

Posted by Todd (anonymous) on August 26, 2005 at 11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Lazz - "Only allowed to laugh at fat people"

Are you kidding me? It's okay to laugh at rich people, white people, men, republicans in Lawrence, and the list goes on and on.

Something people forget when they get defensive is that just because something is wrong with you it doesn't magically make other people better. Everyone has problems and if they don't that in itself is a problem. This whole blog is addressing people who go beyond denying their weight problem and want to turn it into something acceptable or to be proud of.

Posted by rednekbuddha (Kelly Powell) on August 26, 2005 at 11:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh the debate is on anyway. you are saying this to someone who has redneck in their moniker....How many hick jokes have you heard? I bet you used them your self......personally I love to hear any joke....The more cruel the better, Some of the best jokes I have heard were told to me from that minority,or faith,or whatever. Humor is cruel....Have you ever really listened to people laughing....My god if i was an alien and heard a bunch of us monkeys laughing I'd warp away from this planet in a heartbeat. Laughing is like hyenas and cats playing with baby bunnys. I'm talking real humor here, not washed out pc, makes you lightly chuckle bullshit, but real humor that makes you scoff and snear.
And I believe the point of this blog was casting light on yet another case of somebody pushing the blame onto anothers shoulders....The seacow who cried because her doctor told her she was too fat is an idiot....And I am sure the doc was fairly professional about it. If he would of said"HEY FATASS!WERE GOING TO HAVE TO BURY YOU IN A PIANO CRATE IF YOU DON'T SHED SOME OF THAT BLUBBER YOU FUCKING ORCA!" Then maybe she would have a case......But hell you are right, from now on let's just make it illegal for anyone, anywhere to do anything that may offend anybody.......I'll start looking for a cave to hide in.

Posted by rednekbuddha (Kelly Powell) on August 26, 2005 at 11:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

oops...Todd got there before me.

Posted by ladylaw (Terry Bush) on August 26, 2005 at 11:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh God. Buddah...I laughed at the piano crate thing so hard I was afraid I'd lost bladder control. So sue me, I'm insenstive some of the time. I am also overweight myself (you saw me Lazz...am I a tiny woman)? And my husband thinks that Dave Chappel should get a Nobel prize, and so do most blacks. God knows HE isn't very PC.The whole basis of most humor is to laugh at someone (self or others). It's always been kind of cruel. I am all about being kind and gentle and open-minded. But being a survival geared human requires a keen sense of the ridiculous and humility - you have to laugh at life and yourself, or else you become too fragile and rigid. That makes you a professional victim and likely to sue doctors for speaking the truth.

Posted by Snoop (anonymous) on August 26, 2005 at 12:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Man U people have gotten pretty mean.... your, you’re, you are, YOU... SHIT!

Frankly I like Negro jokes and white, redneck, cracka’, trailer trash Britney Spears jokes to.

Not republican jokes, I’m SENSITIVE TO THAT.

I did like the piano crate joke.

Posted by lazz (anonymous) on August 26, 2005 at 12:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This blog had NOTHING to do with "laughing at life," ladylaw. It was mean. Flat-out mean. Misty even says so, and her response is, "I don't give a fuck." Where's the joy of laughing at our foibles in that statement?
Redneck, I agree with your last post ... the obese woman who is suing her doctor for telling her she's fat IS an idiot, and is only asking for public ridicule and scorn. I love jokes, I love cruel jokes, I like to hear 'em and I like to spread 'em. Damn dude, I'm not an angel and I don't pretend to be. Yer danged right, a big part of humor is cruelty.
But again ... I'll not belabor this point any longer ... that's NOT what this blog was about. This was schoolyard bullying of the fat kids. Why is so impossible to make a distinction?

Posted by thetom (anonymous) on August 26, 2005 at 12:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"It was a screed calling for marginalization and ridicule based on physical appearance."

Sorry, I don't see it. What I do see is a rant against the pathetic self masage trend that seduces our entire society into accepting failure. But then again, I'm a moron. I had to look up 'screed' since the last time I used it I was pouring concrete.

It's probably not my argument since I'm not obese. I am, however, lazy and stupid. I also have that dork gut that guys my age get. Misty is right. It's NOT OK. Everybody gets to choose whether to feel the hate or hear the love when somebody tells them the truth.

As far as a free pass, Misty's new logo is fair warning if i've ever seen it. The pass ain't free when you publish a fuck you image of yourself taken by an award winning photograher. Her pass is paid for.

Posted by mitzibel (Misty Nuckolls) on August 26, 2005 at 12:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Here I was going to defend myself against Lazz's over-sensitive hissy fit, and y'all have already done it for me. Thanks ;)

Yes, that IS what the new logo was intended for.

No, I'm not making fun of fat people. I'm making fun of fat people who expect me to think it's not only OK, but damn spiffy, that they're fat. I think I made that abundantly clear, and apparently, so did most other folks. That's plenty enough for me.

And as for singling out fat folks. . . .I took a look at my blogs to see who I've made fun of in the past. The (incomplete) list: fat people, skinny people, white people, black people, poor people, rich people, homeless people, republicans, democrats, libertarians, Catholics, Protestants, Pagans, old people, suicidal people, mothers who kill their own children by accident, mothers who kill their own children on purpose, hicks, rednecks, stupid people, so-called "smart" people, kidnapping victims, and the folks who died at Jonestown.
After all that, being accused of fat-bashing just really isn't getting my knickers in a knot.

Posted by Dazie (Aileen Dingus) on August 26, 2005 at 2:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

And marketing people. Don't forget that. ;)

Posted by mitzibel (Misty Nuckolls) on August 26, 2005 at 2:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh, fuck it, I LOVE marketing people!! In much the same way as I love Ann Coulter; the brashness, the ballsiness, the sheer audacity. In a different life I would have gone into advertising, mostly because I have no soul (just ask lazz;)

Posted by ladylaw (Terry Bush) on August 26, 2005 at 2:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Lazz...I guess you'd have to have read more of Misty's stuff to get her humor and know she is not a bully. On the contrary. She's the bully's worst nightmare on steroids.....

Posted by bennyoates (anonymous) on August 26, 2005 at 4:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

When I saw Misty giving her readers the finger in that blog photo, I knew I was in for something outrageously original and so cutting edge as to be positively lacerating.

Where to start? With an area of agreement--the story about the person who was offended by her doctor is indeed appalling, as is the unwillingness of some, perhaps many people, to take responsibility for their own health and blame it all on the Big Corporate Monster and Fascist Beauty Standards.

Whether these problems represent the behavior of most obese people is another matter. Rumor has it that our media like to focus on extreme cases, and that readers often use them to make sweeping and stupid generalizations, and to justify their own spleen-venting, as Misty has done.

I love it when Misty writes something along the lines of "Those fat slobs are driving up MY insurance rates and taxes!" Why do I love it? Because it takes me back to my childhood and hearing my dad, who was frustrated over his lower-middle class existence, complaining about how those colored welfare queens were being subsidized by HIS hard work. Or, hearing my mom's disgust over how she was in line at the supermarket and noticed that someone on food stamps had a couple candy bars in their cart along with all the cabbage, potatoes, and bologna. Or, years later, hearing a law professor's Ayn Rand-worshipping daughter talk about how she didn't like the idea of national health insurance because SHE didn't want HER taxes paying to save the life of the fat guy who ate potato chips and watched too much TV.

Damn, I'm down with that kind of thinking! Because I sure don't want MY taxes funding the fire department! Those guys put out fires started by the jerks who fall asleep with lit cigarettes! And I'm also down with capitalizing MY words, just like Misty, so everyone will see that I'M carrying a big cross created by the corpulent!

In a simpler time, Misty's malevolence would be called what it is, just plain rude. In these times, some will ennoble Misty because she's striking a blow against political correctness. Thank goodness for the blogosphere; now folks like Misty, who otherwise would have a hard time finding an audience outside their housepets, can communicate 24/7 with similarly bilious bloggers around the globe.

Posted by rednekbuddha (Kelly Powell) on August 26, 2005 at 5:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

such as your self?

Posted by mitzibel (Misty Nuckolls) on August 26, 2005 at 5:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I was going to respond, but. . . ah, fuck it.
Snoop, bennyoates, may I have your attention?
Gentlemen, I would like to introduce you to your nemesisses. . .nemesi. . .what's the plural of "nemesis" again?
Anyway, Snoop, you gotta check out this guy's collection of past comments (especially the one about how you can't call me white trash anymore because it's an insult to YOUR people). I believe we've met your evil twin.
Enjoy. . .

Posted by El_Borak (Bill Hoyt) on August 26, 2005 at 6:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"know she is not a bully." Yes, she really is. I can't count the number of times she's made me cry. But maybe I'm just sensitive.

The plural of Nemesis is Nemeses. But since she was the Greek Goddess of Retributive Justice and there was only one of her, I'm not sure how that can be...

Posted by mitzibel (Misty Nuckolls) on August 26, 2005 at 6:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I love you, Bill. THAT's why I gotta hit you, baby, you know that.

Posted by Snoop (anonymous) on August 26, 2005 at 7:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I was bored I had to retrace....To put it all back into context for me”
Mike Rigg had the following:
In reality, here’s all we know about Giddens’ fight on May 19:
1. There was a fight.
2. Giddens’ leg was cut.
3. White trash lives in Olathe.
4. Self may punish Giddens.
After three weeks of intense “reporting,” these are the only undisputed facts from this whole mess. Everything else that you read and hear is just pure speculation.
THEN:
Posted by jahawker2005
Who is alleging the Creswell punk is a racist, besides you? Do you have anything to back it up, or is it just name-calling and conjecture?
Are all poor white people who live in mobile homes and have had brushes with the law "white trash"?
What term would you use for poor black people who live in mobile homes and have had brushes with the law? "Black trash"? Have you ever slurred anybody with that term?
Posted by jahawker2005
And the "white trash" reference was not only uncalled for, it was either mean-spirited or just plain ignorance.
Or perhaps both?
I'm sure the lower class, white people living in Olathe are quite thrilled with the characterization.
Posted on June 15 at 1:06 p.m.
I agree with the criticism of using the term "white trash."
That term originated in the south among white people who didn't consider themselves to be trash, i.e., middle class and above, to describe whites whom they thought were on the level of black people. They thought of the term "white trash" as an oxymoron, except when applied to certain whites.
If you didn't know that, now you do; if you knew it and you still use the term, why?
I FOUND:
White trash
From Wikipedia,
White trash (extended: poor white trash) is a racial epithet usually used to describe certain low income caucasians, especially those perceived as having crude manners or abnormally low moral standards. According to Oxford English Dictionary, "white trash" first came into common use in the 1830s as an American pejorative used by the slaves of "gentlemen" (rich white Southerners, often plantation aristocrats) against poor Caucasians who worked in the field. The term involves both behavioral characteristics (such as mannerisms, lifestyle) and overt racial characteristics (whiteness). The term is probably used most frequently in the Southeast region of the United States.

After all of that the Wikipedia definition is what I am familiar with:

You don’t have “black trash”, because in the black community it is viewed that Negros, Niggas are already at the bottom of the racial totem pole.
When you are white you have a decided advantage in society and if you are so screwed up (white trash) that you can’t even rise to the perceived social level of white mainstream society, dat is how it is determined. Yes even Negros in trailers or in the projects will refer to “white trash”.

Posted by El_Borak (Bill Hoyt) on August 26, 2005 at 7:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Yes even Negros in trailers..."

Dude, I've never met a negro who lived in a trailer. In the projects, sure (I grew up a block away), but in a trailer? I didn't even find them in my favourite trailer court, Large Marge Hayes: http://largemargehayes.blogspot.com/

I've never known you to be wrong, Snoop. But if this is the first time, I'm gonna come up tomorrow and relieve you of some of that Maker's Mark you're (<-- See, I can do it. Don't mock me, Lazz) so fond of.

Deal?

Posted by Snoop (anonymous) on August 26, 2005 at 8:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sorry B, but you are dead wrong. Lots of blacks particularly in the South live in trailers. It’s a decent housing alternative to living in your southern projects. The town where I lived in Bama Troy have LOTS of blacks in the country in trailers. If you go towards the Florida Panhandle lots more live in trailer parks.
Even in Wichita, a small percentage live in the parks. The MAIN reason blacks don’t is because lets face it you DO have a much higher percentage of your racists, redneck, confederate flag KKK types living there. That of course is no secret.

Posted by El_Borak (Bill Hoyt) on August 26, 2005 at 8:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Damn. Between your (<-- See, I can do it. Don't mock me, Lazz) brains and Misty's cat-o-nine, when am I ever going to get a break?

Posted by OtherJoel (anonymous) on August 27, 2005 at 1:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"3. White trash lives in Olathe."

Damn it Snoop, I live in Olathe. Oh wait... yeah, OK, that's pretty much true.

Posted by Snoop (anonymous) on August 27, 2005 at 12:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

What is Stump Jumping? Some anno dude said there were two types of white trash one stump jumps.
I is ignant on dat one.

Posted by mitzibel (Misty Nuckolls) on August 27, 2005 at 12:11 p.m. (Suggest removal)

From what I gathered Googling it, it's either a trick you can do on an ATV, a fishing technique, or a logging technique. However, there's probably something FAR grosser that I don't even want to know about.

Posted by rednekbuddha (Kelly Powell) on August 27, 2005 at 12:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Don't you guys make fun of people in trailers....These people are our noble sacrifices to the tornado and flood gods, and should be lauded.....Hell they should have a monthly stipend of coors light and crystal meth.
i've seen a lot of black folk in trailer parks....Hell, poor people are way more integrated than the assholes who are constantly bitching about it..........I just love watching some fucking sophmore proudly displaying their first non-white friend around like they single handedly discovered that particular race.

Posted by rednekbuddha (Kelly Powell) on August 27, 2005 at 12:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think you are referring to stump training a cow......

Posted by cfdxprt (anonymous) on August 27, 2005 at 1:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Borak - the link you posted drove my firewall nuts...170 pings to install spyware. Make sure you internet safely kids....

Posted by mitzibel (Misty Nuckolls) on August 29, 2005 at 11:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If anyone is looking for the "Angry Drunk" post, I took it down because my mom reads this blog, and I spoke of things that I never, ever want her to know about in there, which I realized once I sobered up. There's a reason most of my blogs never get too deep personally, not the least of which is that I'm not that deep, and my personal issues are not that entertaining. Thanks for all y'all's support, though, I feel the love ;)

Posted by bennyoates (anonymous) on September 2, 2005 at 9:14 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I hope Misty can restrain herself from screaming "GET ON A GODDAMNED TREADMILL, YOU FAT PIECES OF SHIT!!" when she sees some of the obese people who also happen to be Hurricane Katrina refugees on the TV coverage.

Posted by rednekbuddha (Kelly Powell) on September 4, 2005 at 12:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey you would be a fat ass to if you lived around some of the best food in the world!

Posted by rednekbuddha (Kelly Powell) on September 4, 2005 at 2:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You know, I was just going to skip over your comment with some humor...But in my opinion bennyoats you are a cocknazi, a knobgoblin and a cockholster.....What does a blog about self deluded fat people and this present disaster have to do with each other?Please meet me at the replay at 5pm so I can put some sense into your fucking skull you douche.....I will be wearing leapard print shorts and a blue surfer shirt so you can recognize me.
You go off about blogs are the only way us bitter people can express our selves then 180 and start mouthing off stupid shit your self...You sir are a hypocrite of the first order and deserve whatever happens to you.

Posted by mitzibel (Misty Nuckolls) on September 9, 2005 at 12:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Actually, I was screaming "WHY DON'T YOU POOR-ASS LOSERS GET A JOB SO YOU CAN GET A CAR AND DRIVE YOUR FAT ASSES OUT OF TOWN WHEN A STORM'S ON THE WAY!!!!!!"

Not really, but that's what bennyoates wants to hear, right?