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Bill Hatke, RIP

Today I am moving some dirt. I miss Bill, just the sort of work Bill was good at. Saving plants, transferring them to a temporary bed. The house is to be wrecked, it was destroyed by fire and a new house to be built. Years ago, the first time Bill visited the house, he went to the side yard and dug a little drainage ditch. It serves the yard yet. I was lucky, I was on his regular schedule, We tried to keep the favors down but if he got ahead, he let me feed him. he didn't believe much in charity but was charitable. I will miss his arc, him leaning into his work, his lope, walking along 11th. street, stopping to lean in the car to talk. I didn't find him goofy or weird, I found him brilliant, true, and really really stubborn.

November 4, 2007 at 12:59 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Outgrowing the Interzone

I cede you a gentle jab, and wish you the best.

August 9, 2007 at 7:05 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Outgrowing the Interzone

Well you got me fair and square on typing and spelling. I did like that one line about "poisonous lie". I guess repeating the word disabuse was pretty hilarious. It is a fussy type of word. I think you are right to hate him for leading you "to do horrible things that left indelible scars on not just my psyche, but also on those of innocent bystanders." I read him different, got a different message. I valued the honesty and wicked humor. I saw a voyage where someone emerged from a ship wreck and sailed on. One of my favorite interviews was where someone asked him if he had any regrets, He got a shocked look on his face and said. yeah.

So the book offer was a joke too?

August 9, 2007 at 2:12 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Outgrowing the Interzone

"fhe first person to intelligently debate my attack on the Old Man's life will get my copy of "Naked Lunch," signed by me!"

Can i get it without your signiture? Do you need an address or will you drop it off?
By the way, it is usually acknowledge he wasn't a perderist. he was gay though, knew pederists, hell knew a lot of straight people.

August 7, 2007 at 12:54 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

The Burroughs Guy

This was interesting. i can just see james, such a cutie. William was so lucky that James came to stay. I feel like we are lucky, James made Williams life so much more. both calmer and richer, a tricky thing to achieve.

August 4, 2007 at 9:04 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Memories of Burroughs

That was an exciting comment, going from his local impact, having some of the global impact drop by and say hi.

August 4, 2007 at 1:27 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Outgrowing the Interzone

message recieved. I guess what I was saying was I thought one of Misty's complaints was that William didn't live up to the myths. My complaint is that the myths often didn't have that much to do with William. I found him to be one of the most creative and unusual people I have met or read. A gifted writer, incisive intellect, keen observationist and unique friend. I don't think that an artist, writer or most people should have their work reviewed based only on personality or state of inebreation. I have found straight edgers worthy of reading and rereading, I have found them exciting. Of course the popular view right now is to look at the celebrity, see if the person deserves the celebrity and then dis or laud the celebrity. It makes for cheap press coverage. Less hazardous than investigating gun cartels in South America. I think that William dealt with his celebrity pretty well. tolerated it a part of the job, didn't let it get in the way of a good conversation, and apoligized sweetly to friends when it knocked on their door.

August 3, 2007 at 11:38 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Memories of Burroughs

I use to go with William to Dillons on mass. a lot, once I was going to leave the cart just by the sidewalk, and he cried, "take the cart in, my god some car will hit it". After he died I was shopping and the girl behind the deli called out to me in a perfect Burroughs voice miming," hey where's your friend." I really loved to hear him recite some quotation or just tell a story, he was very good at both. He had a superb reading voice, what a drawl, what a growl. When we told jokes, he never left them alone, he would spin it in new and very funny ways over a couple of day. He exercised his mind and his imagination like an athelete would exercise his game. He also was a demanding friend, requiring real responses, real thought, challenging when one tried to "nice" yet he had absolutely elegant manners, an old fashioned gentleman. One of the things I think the street critics miss about him was he was involved with redemption, he had crosses, like many of us, made most of them himself, but worked through them with a blaring honesty and courage. When I talked about being afraid or not doing something because so and so didn't like me, he encouraged me to hold fast and go forward.

August 2, 2007 at 8:20 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Memories of Burroughs

One of the things I loved was William's friendship with George Kaul. William a thin intellectual writer, homosexual, genteel, guarded and kind, George a barrel chested artists, a man of steel, hetrosexual and kind, it was great to see the comradship between the two old men and the friendship inspired both men to create some great art. Both of course would have created art if they had never met. I was lucky enough to know them both. When one asked George what they talked about, he said "well I am deaf and he mutters so I have no idea" .

August 2, 2007 at 11:40 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Outgrowing the Interzone

I wonder at you looking for someone to blame for your actions. It is ironic that you choose William. I don't know where you got the idea that William was impoverished. I had heard of Burroughs Adding machines before I heard of William. You said "As much as we'd like to laud him as someone who was there, man, who got persecuted and busted and lived in poverty and exile, the "authenticity" of his experiences is suspect"

While there was never the wealth rumored,and there was never a trust fund. The burroughs family sold their interest before the company became a national concern. A little like the colnel did with KFC, money but not wealth. Anyone who thought any of these guys, William, Allen, Jack were impoverished, hey they met at college and William graduated from Harvard. I am sure he was broke at times. I also know he had jobs and worked. To blame William for your treatment of others is the most telling part of your arguement. You might believe that William protrayed himself as impoverished, but he didn't. You might believe he never had to have a job, but he did. People sometimes believe because someones family has money their jobs don't count as real jobs, and their work isn't real work but that is incorrect. He had a lot of gifts and a lot of faults. There is the cult and myths abound and you are right to question the worship of the myth or a man. Celebrity is an odd creature with it's seperate life but even if you believed William was impoverished and never worked a little home work should of disabused you of those assumptions.

August 2, 2007 at 11:20 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

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